Minutes of Proceedings - 1993-05-27
Sixth Assembly First Session 18/05/1993 Parliamentary Record No. 16
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Date : 27/05/1993__________________________________________________________________________________
1. MEETING:
The Assembly met at 10.00 a.m., pursuant to adjournment. The Speaker, the Honourable N.M. Dondas, took the Chair.
2. PRAYERS.
3. QUESTIONS:
Questions were asked of Ministers.
Supplementary answer: The Chief Minister (Mr Perron) gave a supplementary answer to a question asked on Wednesday 26 May 1993 by the
Member for Greatorex (Mr Collins).
Supplementary answer: The Minister for Correctional Services Mr Poole) gave a supplementary answer to a question asked earlier this
sittings by the Member for Greatorex (Mr Collins).
4. PERSONAL EXPLANATION:
The Deputy Leader of the Opposition (Mr Bailey), pursuant to Standing Order 57, made a personal explanation regarding comments made by the
Minister for Industries and Development (Mr Stone) in previous debate these sittings.
5. SPECIAL ADJOURNMENT:
The Leader of Government Business (Mr Setter) moved - That the Assembly at its rising adjourn until Tuesday 17 August 1993 at 10.00 a.m. or such
other time and/or date as may be set by Mr Speaker, pursuant to Sessional Order.
Question - put and passed.
6. McARTHUR RIVER PROJECT AGREEMENT RATIFICATION AMENDMENT BILL 1993 (Serial 253):
The Chief Minister (Mr Perron), by leave, presented a Bill for an Act to amend the McArthur River Project Agreement Ratification Act.
Bill read a first time.
Mr Perron moved - That the Bill be now read a second time.
Papers tabled: Mr Perron laid on the Table the following Papers -
. Letter, Hon. M.B. Perron, MLA, Chief Minister to Hon. P.J. Keating, MP, Prime Minister, dated 20 May 1993;
. Letter, Hon. P.J. Keating, MP, Prime Minister to Hon. M.B. Perron, MLA, Chief Minister, dated 25 May 1993;
. Letter, Hon. Frank Walker, QC, MP, Special Minister of State to Hon. M.B. Perron, MLA, Chief Minister, dated 26 May 1993;
. Letter, Hon. M.B. Perron, MLA, Chief Minister to Hon. Frank Walker, QC, MP, dated 26 May 1993; and
. Letter, Hon. P.J. Keating, MP, Prime Minister to Hon. M.B. Perron, MLA, Chief Minister, dated 26 May 1993.
On the motion of the Leader of the Opposition (Mr Ede) debate was adjourned.
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7. JUVENILE CRIME WORKSHOP, 1993 - PAPER TABLED - PAPER NOTED:
The Minister for Correctional Services (Mr Poole) laid on the Table the Outcome Document of the Juvenile Crime Workshop, 1993.
Mr Poole moved - That the Assembly take note of the Paper.
Debate ensued.
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Suspension of sitting: The sitting was suspended between 11.54 a.m. and 2.00 p.m.
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Debate resumed.
Question - put and passed.
8. SESSIONAL COMMITTEE ON CONSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT, ANNUAL REPORT, 1991-92 - PAPER TABLED - PAPER PRINTED - PAPER NOTED:
The Chairman of the Sessional Committee on Constitutional Development Mr Hatton) laid on the Table the Annual Report of the Sessional
Committee on Constitutional Development for the year ending 30 June 1992.
Mr Hatton moved - That the report be printed.
Question - put and passed.
Mr Hatton moved - That the Assembly take note of the Paper.
Debate ensued.
Question - put and passed.
9. HOMENORTH HOUSING SCHEME - MINISTERIAL STATEMENT - STATEMENT NOTED:
The Minister for Lands and Housing (Mr Hatton) made a statement relating to the HomeNorth portfolio of Home Purchase Assistance Schemes.
Paper tabled: Mr Hatton laid on the Table the following Paper -
. Press release - "HomeFund Early Warning Signs Shouldn't be
Ignored", by Maggie Hickey, MLA, dated 21 April 1993.
Mr Hatton moved - That the Assembly take note of the Statement.
Debate ensued.
Paper tabled: The Member for Victoria River (Mr Cartwright), by leave, laid on the Table the following Paper -
. Letter, Gary Cartwright, MLA to The Clerk, Legislative Assembly, dated 27 May 1993.
Debate continued.
Paper tabled: Mr Cartwright, by leave, laid on the Table the following Paper -
. Letter, HomeNorth Sales Scheme, Application to Purchase, signed by P.J. Murphy, A/Area Manager, Palmerston, Northern Territory
Housing Commission, dated 1992.
Debate continued.
Question - put and passed.
10. YOUTH POLICY - MINISTERIAL STATEMENT - STATEMENT NOTED:
The Minister for Health and Community Services (Mr Reed) made a statement regarding the development of a new Northern Territory Youth
Policy.
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Papers tabled: Mr Reed laid on the Table the following Papers -
. Youth Policy of the Northern Territory, Youth, Sport, Recreation and Ethnic Affairs Division, published February 1984;
. Paper - Community Consultation, New Youth Policy, Department of Health and Community Services;
. Northern Territory Youth Policy Review, Information for Workers in Remote Communities, Department of Health and Community
Services, May 1993; and
. Paper - Northern Territory Youth Policy Review, Issues/Discussions Paper.
Mr Reed moved - That the Assembly take note of the Statement.
Debate ensued.
Question - put and passed.
11. LIQUOR AMENDMENT BILL (No.2) 1993 (Serial 241):
The Chief Minister (Mr Perron), pursuant to notice, presented a Bill for an Act to amend the Liquor Act.
Bill read a first time.
Mr Perron moved - That the Bill be now read a second time.
On the motion of the Member for Arnhem (Mr Lanhupuy) debate was adjourned.
12. GAMING CONTROL BILL 1993 (Serial 242):
The Chief Minister (Mr Perron) for and on behalf of and at the request of the Treasurer (Mr Coulter), pursuant to notice, presented a Bill for
an Act to licence and control casinos and gaming, and for related
purposes.
Bill read a first time.
Mr Perron moved - That the Bill be now read a second time.
On the motion of the Member for Arnhem (Mr Lanhupuy) debate was adjourned.
13. LIQUOR AMENDMENT BILL 1993 (Serial 228):
Suspension of Standing Orders - Pass Bill through all stages: The Chief Minister (Mr Perron) moved - That so much of Standing Orders be
suspended as would prevent the Liquor Amendment Bill 1993 (Serial 228) passing through all stages at this sitting.
Question - put and passed - there being an absolute majority of the whole number of Members present and no dissentient voice.
The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question - That the Bill be now read a second time -
Debate resumed.
Question - put and passed.
Bill read a second time.
Leave granted for a motion for the third reading of the Bill to be moved forthwith.
On the motion of the Chief Minister (Mr Perron) the Bill was read a third time and passed to be a proposed law.
14. ALTERATION OF ORDER OF BUSINESS:
The Leader of Government Business (Mr Setter) moved - That intervening Government Business be postponed until after consideration of Government
Business, Order of the Day No.25 relating to Northern Territory Public Sector Forward Estimates, 1993-94 and 1994-95.
Question - put and passed.
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15. NORTHERN TERRITORY PUBLIC SECTOR FORWARD ESTIMATES 1993-94 and 1994-95 - PAPER NOTED:
The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question - That the Assembly take note of the Paper -
Debate resumed.
Question - put and passed.
16. ALTERATION OF ORDER OF BUSINESS:
The Leader of Government Business (Mr Setter) moved - That intervening Government Business be postponed until after consideration of Government
Business, Order of the Day No.3 relating to the Royal Commission into Aboriginal Deaths in Custody.
Question - put and passed.
17. ROYAL COMMISSION INTO ABORIGINAL DEATHS IN CUSTODY - PAPERS AND STATEMENTS NOTED:
The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the motion - That the Assembly take note of the following -
. Four Reports tabled 14 February 1991;
. Five Reports tabled 7 May 1991;
. National Report, Volumes I - V tabled 8 May 1991;
. Aboriginal Deaths in Custody - Overview of the Response by Governments to the Royal Commission tabled 21 May 1992;
. Aboriginal Deaths in Custody - Response by Governments Volumes 1; 2; and 3 tabled 21 May 1992; and
. Ministerial Statements of 21 August 1991 and 21 May 1992.
Debate resumed.
And the Member for Macdonnell (Mr Bell) loudly interjecting from other than his place and being called to order -
Member warned: Mr Bell continuing to interject - the Acting Speaker (Mr Collins) thereupon warned Mr Bell.
Member named and suspended: And the Member for Macdonnell (Mr Bell), persistently failing to heed the Acting Speaker's call for order, the
Acting Speaker named Mr Bell.
Mr Bell thereupon moved - That the ruling of the Acting Speaker be dissented from and, pursuant to Standing Order 82, submitted his motion
of dissent in writing. The Leader of the Opposition (Mr Ede) seconded the motion.
And the motion being out of order -
The Leader of Government Business (Mr Setter) moved - That Mr Bell be suspended from the service of the Assembly.
Question - That Mr Bell be suspended from the service of the Assembly - put.
The Assembly divided (the Speaker, Hon. N.M. Dondas, in the Chair) -
AYES, 14 NOES, 9
Mr Collins Mr Bailey
Mr Dondas Mr Bell
Mr Finch Mr Cartwright
Mr Hatton Mr Ede
Mr Manzie Mrs Hickey
Mr McCarthy Mr Lanhupuy
Mr Ortmann Mr Parish
Mr Palmer Mr Rioli
Mr Perron Mr Stirling
Mr Poole
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Mr Reed
Mr Setter
Mr Stone
Mr Vale
And so it was resolved in the affirmative.
Mr Bell was, therefore, suspended at 7.28 p.m. for 24 hours, pursuant to Standing Order 241 and he accordingly withdrew from the Chamber.
Debate continued.
Question - put and passed.
18. ADJOURNMENT:
The Minister for Industries and Development (Mr Stone) moved - That the Assembly do now adjourn.
Debate ensued.
Papers tabled: Mr Stone laid on the Table the following Paper -
. "Suara Nyamuk" by the students of Indonesian at the Northern Territory University, dated May 1993.
Mr Stone, by leave, had the following paper incorporated in Hansard -
. Article - "Honorary degree for 'Flynn of the Frontier' Intuition, dated 21 May 1993.
Debate continued.
Papers tabled: The Minister for Correctional Services (Mr Poole) laid on the Table the following Papers -
. Newspaper article - "Hongkong the leader in the rush for games gold", by Deen Nawaz, The Standard, dated 28 April 1993;
and
. Newspaper article - "Double golden glory for Hongkong Swimmers" by T.M.K. Samat, The Standard, dated 27 April 1993.
Debate continued.
Papers tabled: The Minister for Lands and Housing (Mr Hatton) laid on the Table the following Papers -
. Letter, Cliff Emerson, Executive Director, Northern Territory Cattlemen's Association Inc to Hon D. Manzie, MLA, Minister
for Lands and Housing, dated 19 June 1989;
. Letter, C.K. Castine, for Regional Director, Department of Aboriginal Affairs to the Managing Director, Australian
Agricultural Co. Ltd, dated 3 September 1981;
. Sublease - Between the Gulf Cattle Company Pty Limited and Jarnba-Gadarlandji Aboriginal Corporation, dated 24 September 1982;
. Letter, R. Wright, Aboriginal Land Branch to Mr R.T. Schmidt, Managing Director, Australian Agricultural Company Limited,
dated 24 November 1987; and
. Letter, J.L.P. Griffith, Chief Executive Officer, Australian Agricultural Company Limited to Mr R.J. Wright, Aboriginal
Land Branch, Department of Lands and Housing, dated 27 May 1988.
Question - put and passed.
And the Assembly adjourned at 11.06 p.m. until Tuesday 17 August 1993 at 10.00 a.m. or such other time and/or date as may be set by the
Speaker, pursuant to Sessional Order.
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PAPERS:
The following Papers were deemed to have been presented on Thursday 27 May 1993:
Annual Report
Parole Board, year ended 31 December 1992
Financial Statement:
Ayers Rock Resort Corporation and Controlled Entities, 1991-92.
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ATTENDANCE:
All Members attended the sitting.
IAN McNEILL
Clerk of the Legislative Assembly.
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Date : 27/05/1993
1. MEETING:
The Assembly met at 10.00 a.m., pursuant to adjournment. The Speaker, the Honourable N.M. Dondas, took the Chair.
2. PRAYERS.
3. QUESTIONS:
Questions were asked of Ministers.
Supplementary answer: The Chief Minister (Mr Perron) gave a supplementary answer to a question asked on Wednesday 26 May 1993 by the
Member for Greatorex (Mr Collins).
Supplementary answer: The Minister for Correctional Services Mr Poole) gave a supplementary answer to a question asked earlier this
sittings by the Member for Greatorex (Mr Collins).
4. PERSONAL EXPLANATION:
The Deputy Leader of the Opposition (Mr Bailey), pursuant to Standing Order 57, made a personal explanation regarding comments made by the
Minister for Industries and Development (Mr Stone) in previous debate these sittings.
5. SPECIAL ADJOURNMENT:
The Leader of Government Business (Mr Setter) moved - That the Assembly at its rising adjourn until Tuesday 17 August 1993 at 10.00 a.m. or such
other time and/or date as may be set by Mr Speaker, pursuant to Sessional Order.
Question - put and passed.
6. McARTHUR RIVER PROJECT AGREEMENT RATIFICATION AMENDMENT BILL 1993 (Serial 253):
The Chief Minister (Mr Perron), by leave, presented a Bill for an Act to amend the McArthur River Project Agreement Ratification Act.
Bill read a first time.
Mr Perron moved - That the Bill be now read a second time.
Papers tabled: Mr Perron laid on the Table the following Papers -
. Letter, Hon. M.B. Perron, MLA, Chief Minister to Hon. P.J. Keating, MP, Prime Minister, dated 20 May 1993;
. Letter, Hon. P.J. Keating, MP, Prime Minister to Hon. M.B. Perron, MLA, Chief Minister, dated 25 May 1993;
. Letter, Hon. Frank Walker, QC, MP, Special Minister of State to Hon. M.B. Perron, MLA, Chief Minister, dated 26 May 1993;
. Letter, Hon. M.B. Perron, MLA, Chief Minister to Hon. Frank Walker, QC, MP, dated 26 May 1993; and
. Letter, Hon. P.J. Keating, MP, Prime Minister to Hon. M.B. Perron, MLA, Chief Minister, dated 26 May 1993.
On the motion of the Leader of the Opposition (Mr Ede) debate was adjourned.
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7. JUVENILE CRIME WORKSHOP, 1993 - PAPER TABLED - PAPER NOTED:
The Minister for Correctional Services (Mr Poole) laid on the Table the Outcome Document of the Juvenile Crime Workshop, 1993.
Mr Poole moved - That the Assembly take note of the Paper.
Debate ensued.
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Suspension of sitting: The sitting was suspended between 11.54 a.m. and 2.00 p.m.
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Debate resumed.
Question - put and passed.
8. SESSIONAL COMMITTEE ON CONSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT, ANNUAL REPORT, 1991-92 - PAPER TABLED - PAPER PRINTED - PAPER NOTED:
The Chairman of the Sessional Committee on Constitutional Development Mr Hatton) laid on the Table the Annual Report of the Sessional
Committee on Constitutional Development for the year ending 30 June 1992.
Mr Hatton moved - That the report be printed.
Question - put and passed.
Mr Hatton moved - That the Assembly take note of the Paper.
Debate ensued.
Question - put and passed.
9. HOMENORTH HOUSING SCHEME - MINISTERIAL STATEMENT - STATEMENT NOTED:
The Minister for Lands and Housing (Mr Hatton) made a statement relating to the HomeNorth portfolio of Home Purchase Assistance Schemes.
Paper tabled: Mr Hatton laid on the Table the following Paper -
. Press release - "HomeFund Early Warning Signs Shouldn't be
Ignored", by Maggie Hickey, MLA, dated 21 April 1993.
Mr Hatton moved - That the Assembly take note of the Statement.
Debate ensued.
Paper tabled: The Member for Victoria River (Mr Cartwright), by leave, laid on the Table the following Paper -
. Letter, Gary Cartwright, MLA to The Clerk, Legislative Assembly, dated 27 May 1993.
Debate continued.
Paper tabled: Mr Cartwright, by leave, laid on the Table the following Paper -
. Letter, HomeNorth Sales Scheme, Application to Purchase, signed by P.J. Murphy, A/Area Manager, Palmerston, Northern Territory
Housing Commission, dated 1992.
Debate continued.
Question - put and passed.
10. YOUTH POLICY - MINISTERIAL STATEMENT - STATEMENT NOTED:
The Minister for Health and Community Services (Mr Reed) made a statement regarding the development of a new Northern Territory Youth
Policy.
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Papers tabled: Mr Reed laid on the Table the following Papers -
. Youth Policy of the Northern Territory, Youth, Sport, Recreation and Ethnic Affairs Division, published February 1984;
. Paper - Community Consultation, New Youth Policy, Department of Health and Community Services;
. Northern Territory Youth Policy Review, Information for Workers in Remote Communities, Department of Health and Community
Services, May 1993; and
. Paper - Northern Territory Youth Policy Review, Issues/Discussions Paper.
Mr Reed moved - That the Assembly take note of the Statement.
Debate ensued.
Question - put and passed.
11. LIQUOR AMENDMENT BILL (No.2) 1993 (Serial 241):
The Chief Minister (Mr Perron), pursuant to notice, presented a Bill for an Act to amend the Liquor Act.
Bill read a first time.
Mr Perron moved - That the Bill be now read a second time.
On the motion of the Member for Arnhem (Mr Lanhupuy) debate was adjourned.
12. GAMING CONTROL BILL 1993 (Serial 242):
The Chief Minister (Mr Perron) for and on behalf of and at the request of the Treasurer (Mr Coulter), pursuant to notice, presented a Bill for
an Act to licence and control casinos and gaming, and for related
purposes.
Bill read a first time.
Mr Perron moved - That the Bill be now read a second time.
On the motion of the Member for Arnhem (Mr Lanhupuy) debate was adjourned.
13. LIQUOR AMENDMENT BILL 1993 (Serial 228):
Suspension of Standing Orders - Pass Bill through all stages: The Chief Minister (Mr Perron) moved - That so much of Standing Orders be
suspended as would prevent the Liquor Amendment Bill 1993 (Serial 228) passing through all stages at this sitting.
Question - put and passed - there being an absolute majority of the whole number of Members present and no dissentient voice.
The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question - That the Bill be now read a second time -
Debate resumed.
Question - put and passed.
Bill read a second time.
Leave granted for a motion for the third reading of the Bill to be moved forthwith.
On the motion of the Chief Minister (Mr Perron) the Bill was read a third time and passed to be a proposed law.
14. ALTERATION OF ORDER OF BUSINESS:
The Leader of Government Business (Mr Setter) moved - That intervening Government Business be postponed until after consideration of Government
Business, Order of the Day No.25 relating to Northern Territory Public Sector Forward Estimates, 1993-94 and 1994-95.
Question - put and passed.
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15. NORTHERN TERRITORY PUBLIC SECTOR FORWARD ESTIMATES 1993-94 and 1994-95 - PAPER NOTED:
The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question - That the Assembly take note of the Paper -
Debate resumed.
Question - put and passed.
16. ALTERATION OF ORDER OF BUSINESS:
The Leader of Government Business (Mr Setter) moved - That intervening Government Business be postponed until after consideration of Government
Business, Order of the Day No.3 relating to the Royal Commission into Aboriginal Deaths in Custody.
Question - put and passed.
17. ROYAL COMMISSION INTO ABORIGINAL DEATHS IN CUSTODY - PAPERS AND STATEMENTS NOTED:
The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the motion - That the Assembly take note of the following -
. Four Reports tabled 14 February 1991;
. Five Reports tabled 7 May 1991;
. National Report, Volumes I - V tabled 8 May 1991;
. Aboriginal Deaths in Custody - Overview of the Response by Governments to the Royal Commission tabled 21 May 1992;
. Aboriginal Deaths in Custody - Response by Governments Volumes 1; 2; and 3 tabled 21 May 1992; and
. Ministerial Statements of 21 August 1991 and 21 May 1992.
Debate resumed.
And the Member for Macdonnell (Mr Bell) loudly interjecting from other than his place and being called to order -
Member warned: Mr Bell continuing to interject - the Acting Speaker (Mr Collins) thereupon warned Mr Bell.
Member named and suspended: And the Member for Macdonnell (Mr Bell), persistently failing to heed the Acting Speaker's call for order, the
Acting Speaker named Mr Bell.
Mr Bell thereupon moved - That the ruling of the Acting Speaker be dissented from and, pursuant to Standing Order 82, submitted his motion
of dissent in writing. The Leader of the Opposition (Mr Ede) seconded the motion.
And the motion being out of order -
The Leader of Government Business (Mr Setter) moved - That Mr Bell be suspended from the service of the Assembly.
Question - That Mr Bell be suspended from the service of the Assembly - put.
The Assembly divided (the Speaker, Hon. N.M. Dondas, in the Chair) -
AYES, 14 NOES, 9
Mr Collins Mr Bailey
Mr Dondas Mr Bell
Mr Finch Mr Cartwright
Mr Hatton Mr Ede
Mr Manzie Mrs Hickey
Mr McCarthy Mr Lanhupuy
Mr Ortmann Mr Parish
Mr Palmer Mr Rioli
Mr Perron Mr Stirling
Mr Poole
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Mr Reed
Mr Setter
Mr Stone
Mr Vale
And so it was resolved in the affirmative.
Mr Bell was, therefore, suspended at 7.28 p.m. for 24 hours, pursuant to Standing Order 241 and he accordingly withdrew from the Chamber.
Debate continued.
Question - put and passed.
18. ADJOURNMENT:
The Minister for Industries and Development (Mr Stone) moved - That the Assembly do now adjourn.
Debate ensued.
Papers tabled: Mr Stone laid on the Table the following Paper -
. "Suara Nyamuk" by the students of Indonesian at the Northern Territory University, dated May 1993.
Mr Stone, by leave, had the following paper incorporated in Hansard -
. Article - "Honorary degree for 'Flynn of the Frontier' Intuition, dated 21 May 1993.
Debate continued.
Papers tabled: The Minister for Correctional Services (Mr Poole) laid on the Table the following Papers -
. Newspaper article - "Hongkong the leader in the rush for games gold", by Deen Nawaz, The Standard, dated 28 April 1993;
and
. Newspaper article - "Double golden glory for Hongkong Swimmers" by T.M.K. Samat, The Standard, dated 27 April 1993.
Debate continued.
Papers tabled: The Minister for Lands and Housing (Mr Hatton) laid on the Table the following Papers -
. Letter, Cliff Emerson, Executive Director, Northern Territory Cattlemen's Association Inc to Hon D. Manzie, MLA, Minister
for Lands and Housing, dated 19 June 1989;
. Letter, C.K. Castine, for Regional Director, Department of Aboriginal Affairs to the Managing Director, Australian
Agricultural Co. Ltd, dated 3 September 1981;
. Sublease - Between the Gulf Cattle Company Pty Limited and Jarnba-Gadarlandji Aboriginal Corporation, dated 24 September 1982;
. Letter, R. Wright, Aboriginal Land Branch to Mr R.T. Schmidt, Managing Director, Australian Agricultural Company Limited,
dated 24 November 1987; and
. Letter, J.L.P. Griffith, Chief Executive Officer, Australian Agricultural Company Limited to Mr R.J. Wright, Aboriginal
Land Branch, Department of Lands and Housing, dated 27 May 1988.
Question - put and passed.
And the Assembly adjourned at 11.06 p.m. until Tuesday 17 August 1993 at 10.00 a.m. or such other time and/or date as may be set by the
Speaker, pursuant to Sessional Order.
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PAPERS:
The following Papers were deemed to have been presented on Thursday 27 May 1993:
Annual Report
Parole Board, year ended 31 December 1992
Financial Statement:
Ayers Rock Resort Corporation and Controlled Entities, 1991-92.
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ATTENDANCE:
All Members attended the sitting.
IAN McNEILL
Clerk of the Legislative Assembly.
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