Minutes of Proceedings - 2008-10-23
- The Assembly met at 10am. The Speaker, the Honourable J. L. Aagaard, took the Chair.
2. PRAYERS.
3. MINISTERIAL REPORTS:
- Common User Areas, Oil and Gas Industries: The Minister for Business and Employment (Mr Vatskalis) reported on development of Common User Areas for our oil and gas industries at the Port of Darwin.
Mr Tollner responded.
Charles Darwin University, Graduates: The Minister for Education and Training (Ms Scrymgour) reported on the graduation ceremony of the Charles Darwin University for graduates which was held in the new Darwin Convention Centre.
Mr Mills responded.
Ms Scrymgour replied.
Community Environment Grants 2008: The Minister for Natural Resources, Environment and Heritage (Ms Anderson) reported on the Environment Grants Programs for 2008 and summarised the history of the program which was commenced in 2004.
Mr Chandler responded.
Mr Wood responded.
Ms Anderson replied.
Ministerial Reports noted, pursuant to Standing Orders.
- The Chief Minister (Mr Henderson), pursuant to notice, presented a Bill for an Act to facilitate the Ichthys LNG Project.
Bill read a first time.
Mr Henderson moved - That the Bill be now read a second time.
Debate ensued.
Paper tabled: Mr Henderson laid on the Table the following Paper -
On the motion of the Leader of the Opposition (Mr Mills) debate was adjourned.
- The Order of the Day having been read for the resumption of debate on the question - That the Bill be now read a second time -
Debate resumed.
Debate suspended.
Sittings suspended: The sittings of the Assembly was suspended between 11.53am and 3pm, pursuant to resolution dated 22 October 2008.
- The following Notices were given:
Mr Mills: Requested that General Business, Notice No. 2 relating to Acute Health Services in his name be amended to show Mr Conlan having carriage of the motion.
Mr Mills: To move -
- That, the Legal and Constitutional Affairs Committee:
(a) conduct an inquiry into the legislative requirements necessary to provide for the registration of miscarried births prior to 20 weeks gestation in the Northern Territory;
(b) investigate the current arrangements in place in other jurisdictions both domestically and internationally;
(c) examine any other matters associated with birth registration of miscarried births; and
(d) reports to the Assembly no later than 30 April 2009 or if the Assembly be not sitting, to the Speaker and by so doing the report is deemed to have been tabled in the Assembly and the Speaker be authorised to publish the report.
- (a) the parliament calls on the Northern Territory Government to immediately remove the fees levied against members of this parliament when making FOI applications;
(b) the parliament fully endorses an effective FOI system as a mechanism for holding government to account, and removing the barrier of costs levied on FOI requests of Members of this place will further improve government accountability, a basic expectation of the Territory community; and
(c) continuing to levy fees on Members of the Assembly for FOI applications effectively restrains them from carrying out their duties as an elected Member.
- That, the Chief Minister establish a Territory Development Taskforce comprised of key representatives from the public and private sectors to co-ordinate the Territory Government’s response the social, community, economic and environmental challenges of establishing a $12 billion gas processing plant in Darwin Harbour by Inpex and Total.
- That, the Territory Government immediately establish a network of Boarding Schools in regional centres for students from remote areas as a response to the disastrous National Assessment Program in Literacy and Numeracy test results recorded by Territory students in remote regions, and that where these boarding schools are attended by people from remote areas, and further that there is to be provisions to transport these children back home on weekends.
- 1. Establishes a Regulation Relief Review Advisory Committee (Advisory Committee) subordinate to the Legal and Constitutional Affairs Standing Committee;
2. Endorses the following terms of reference for the Regulation Relief Review Advisory Committee:
- (a) to review all laws and regulations that impact on business in the Territory, including procurement practices and other process requirements of the Northern Territory government, and
(b) recommend removal and reform of these regulations and processes, where appropriate;
3. Agrees to the membership of the committee to be made up of a chairperson nominated by the Leader of Government Business; a deputy chairperson to be nominated by the Manager of Opposition Business; two members nominated by business associations (made up of a representative from the Business Council, REINT, Chamber of Commerce, Cattlemen’s Association, Trucking Association, Construction Association, the MTAA, the HIA and any other organisation agreed to by the chair and deputy chair) of the Northern Territory; a consumer advocate agreed to by the chair and deputy chair of the committee and the Northern Territory Ombudsman;
4. In establishing the Advisory Committee, does so subject to the Speaker tabling in the Assembly for its adoption a determination authorising the operational structure levels and terms and conditions of payment of meeting/sitting fees, travel allowances paid to Regulation Relief Review Advisory Committee members in similar terms to that of the Statehood Steering Committee; and
5. Requires the Legal and Constitutional Affairs Committee to report to the Assembly, no later than 30 June 2009, including in its report any and all recommendations of the Regulation Relief Review Advisory Committee.
- 3.12pm Mr Mills to Mr Henderson.
3.15pm Mr Gunner to Mr Henderson.
3.20pm Mr Mills to Ms Scrymgour.
3.24pm Ms Walker to Ms Scrymgour.
3.25pm Mr Mills to Ms Scrymgour.
3.26pm Mr McCarthy to Dr Burns.
Paper tabled: Dr Burns laid on the Table the following Paper -
3.36pm Mr Mills to Ms Scrymgour
3.37pm Mr Gunner to Ms Lawrie.
3.40pm Mr Mills to Ms Scrymgour.
3.43pm Ms Walker to Mr Hampton.
3.45pm Mr Mills to Ms Scrymgour, referred to Mr Henderson.
3.50pm Mr McCarthy to Mr Knight.
3.54pm Mr Wood to Mr Henderson.
4.06pm Mr Gunner to Ms Lawrie.
The Leader of Government Business (Ms Lawrie) asked that further questions be placed on the Written Question Paper.
- The Speaker referred the Member for Daly (Mr Knight) to the Daly Hansard of 22 October 2008 wherein he had accused the Member for Fong Lim (Mr Tollner), amongst other things of sleeping in his car. The Member for Daly (Mr Knight) then unreservedly apologised and withdrew the comment.
- The Order of the Day having been read for the resumption of debate suspended earlier this day, on the question - That the Bill be now read a second time -
Debate resumed.
Question - put and passed.
Bill read a second time.
The Assembly resolved itself into Committee of the Whole for consideration of the Bill.
In Committee
(Deputy Speaker and Chairman of Committees - Ms Walker)
Clauses 1 to 4, by leave, taken together and agreed to.
Clause 5 read.
The Member for Araluen (Ms Carney) moved the following amendment -
Omit all words after "repeal, substitute" -
"78BA Imprisonment for violent offences
- (1) This section applies to a person who is found by a court to be guilty of a violent offence (the current offence) if:
- (a) the person has been found guilty of a previous violent offence; or
(b) the person:
- (i) is an adult who has not previously been found guilty of a violent offence; and
(ii) has caused serious harm when committing the current offence.
- (a) record a conviction; and
(b) sentence the person to a term of imprisonment.
- (a) must not suspend any part of the sentence for the current offence if the person has, within 10 years before committing the current offence, been found guilty of a previous violent offence; and
(b) otherwise – may suspend the sentence in part (but not wholly).
- (a) 12 months – if the person:
- (i) is an adult who has been found guilty of a previous violent offence; and
(ii) has caused serious harm when committing the current offence;
- (i) is an adult who has not previously been found guilty of a violent offence; and
(ii) has caused serious harm when committing the current offence;
- (i) the person is an adult who has been found guilty of a previous violent offence; and
(ii) paragraph (a) does not apply; and
(iii) there are aggravating factors in relation to the commission of the current offence (see sections 5(2)(f) and 6A);
- (i) the person is an adult who has been found guilty of a previous violent offence; and
(ii) neither paragraph (a) nor (c) apply; and
(iii) the person has caused harm when committing the current offence.
(6) If a court finds a person guilty of more than 1 violent offence, the court may count them as a single offence for this section if the court considers they were part of the same incident, having regard to:
- (a) when and where the offences were committed; and
(b) any other circumstances the court considers relevant.
Example
A person is found guilty of assaulting 2 people and causing serious harm to them. If the court considers the assaults occurred as part of the same incident, and the person has not previously been found guilty of a previous violent offence, the court may apply subsection (3)(b) rather than subsection (3)(a) when sentencing the person.
- (a) only if the person:
- (i) committed the previous violent offence as an adult; or
(ii) was sentenced for the previous violent offence by the Supreme Court; and
(9) In this section:
- harm, see section 1 of the Criminal Code.
previous violent offence means any of the following:
(a) a violent offence;
(b) an offence substantially corresponding to a violent offence against a law, or a repealed law, of the Territory or another jurisdiction (including a jurisdiction outside Australia).
serious harm, see section 1 of the Criminal Code.".
Debate ensued.
Amendment negatived.
On the motion of Dr Burns the following amendment was agreed to, after debate -
In proposed section 78BA(1)(a)(ii), omit "(or serious harm)".
On the motion of Dr Burns the following further amendment was agreed to, after debate -
After proposed section 78BA(1), insert -
- "(1A) However, if an offence in subsection (1)(a) relates to causing or resulting in only physical harm to a victim, this section applies only if the harm is a physical injury that interferes with the victim's health.
Example
A is found guilty of an offence against section 186 for unlawfully causing physical harm to B. If the harm consists only of pain that does not amount to a physical injury that interferes with B's health, this section does not apply to the sentencing of A for the offence.".
Remainder of the Bill, by leave, taken as a whole and agreed to.
Bill to be reported with amendments.
The Assembly resumed; the Speaker took the Chair; the Deputy Speaker and Chairman of Committees (Ms Walker) reported that the Assembly had agreed to the Bill with amendments.
The report was adopted.
On the motion of the Minister for Justice and Attorney-General (Dr Burns) the Bill was read a third time and passed to be a proposed law.
10. TRANSPORT LEGISLATION (ALCOHOL IGNITION LOCKS) AMENDMENT BILL 2008 (Serial 9):
- The Order of the Day having been read for the resumption of debate on the question - That the Bill be now read a second time -
Debate resumed.
Leave denied: The Member for Braitling (Mr Giles) sought leave to continue his remarks at a later hour. A dissentient voice being raised leave denied.
Debate continued.
Question - put and passed.
Bill read a second time.
The Assembly resolved itself into Committee of the Whole for consideration of the Bill.
In Committee
(Deputy Speaker and Chairman of Committees - Ms Walker)
Clauses 1 to 5, by leave, taken together and agreed to.
Clauses 6 and 18, by leave, taken together.
Mr Giles, by leave, moved the following amendments to Clause 6 and Clause 18, respectively -
Clause 6 -
- Proposed section 10(4B)(a), after "22(3)(b)(ii)"
- insert
23(4)(b)(ii),
- Proposed section 29AAYB(a), after "22(3)(b)(ii)"
- insert
23(4)(b)(ii),
Clause 18 -
- Proposed section 29AAYD, at the end
- insert
(7) A person who is not the driver of an AIL vehicle must not provide a breath sample for the AIL in the vehicle for the purpose of enabling another person to drive the vehicle.
- Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units or imprisonment for 12 months.
Leave granted to put the question on clause 18 at a later stage as the Member for Nelson (Mr Wood) wanted to speak to it.
Clause 6, as printed, agreed to.
Clauses 7 to 10, by leave, taken together and agreed to, after debate.
Clause 11 read.
Mr Giles moved the following amendment -
At the end
- insert
- Omit, 3 years
Substitute, 5 years
Amendment negatived.
Clause 11, as printed, agreed to.
Clause 12 agreed to.
Proposed new clause 12A.
Mr Giles moved the following amendment -
- After clause 12
- insert
- Section 23(4)
omit
all the words after "cancelled and"
substitute
the person is disqualified from:
(a) for a second offence – obtaining a licence for a period that is at least 3 months; and
(b) for a subsequent offence:
- (i) obtaining a licence for a period (mandatory period) that is at least 6 months; and
(ii) if the mandatory period is less than 5 years – obtaining a licence other than an AIL licence for an additional period (AIL period) immediately after the mandatory period that is at least 6 months and not more than 3 years.
1 This means the person may be able to drive a motor vehicle fitted with an alcohol ignition lock during the AIL period after being disqualified for the mandatory period (see sections 29AAYB and 29AAYC).
2 If the mandatory period is 5 years or more, no AIL period applies to the person and the person cannot obtain an AIL licence.
Proposed new clause 12A negatived.
Clauses 13 and 14, by leave, taken together.
Leave granted to Mr Giles to move his proposed amendments to clauses 13 and 14 together.
Mr Giles moved the following amendment to clause 13 -
- insert
- Omit, 3 years
Substitute, 5 years
- Before subclause (1)
Insert
(1A) Section 25(4)(a)(iii) and (f)
Omit, 3 years
Substitute, 5 years
Amendments negatived.
Clauses 13 and 14, as printed, agreed to.
Proposed new clause14A.
Mr Giles moved the following proposed new clause 14A be inserted in the Bill -
- insert
- Section 26(2)(a)(iii), (f), (g) and (h)
Omit, 3 years
Substitute, 5 years
Clause 15 agreed to.
Clauses 16 and 17, by leave, taken together and agreed to.
Clause 18 read.
Debate ensued.
Clause 18, as printed, agreed to.
New Clauses 18A to 18C.
Mr Giles, by leave, moved the following amendments together -
- After clause 18
- insert
(1) Section 29AB
- insert (in alphabetical order)
class B prescribed driving offence includes the following:
(a) a class B1 prescribed driving offence;
(b) a class B2 prescribed driving offence.
- omit, substitute
prescribed driving offence means an offence by the driver of a motor vehicle against a provision of this Act prescribed by the Regulations as any of the following:
(a) class A prescribed driving offence;
(b) class B1 prescribed driving offence;
(c) class B2 prescribed driving offence.
- omit
all words after "found guilty"
substitute
of:
(a) a class A prescribed driving offence (the last offence) within 2 years after having been previously found guilty of a class A prescribed driving offence; or
(b) a class B prescribed driving offence (the last offence) within 5 years after having been previously found guilty of a class B prescribed driving offence.
(1) Section 29AG(1)(a), (b) and (c)
- omit
prescribed driving offence
substitute
class A prescribed driving offence
- insert
(d) if the offender has been found guilty on 3 or more occasions of a class B prescribed driving offence, of which at least 1 was a class B1 prescribed driving offence, order that the vehicle be forfeited to the Territory.
Debate ensued.
Debate suspended.
Suspension of sittings: The sittings was suspended between 8.50pm and 8.59pm.
Debate resumed on proposed New Clauses 18A to 18C.
Paper tabled: The Member for Braitling (Mr Giles), by leave, laid on the Table the following Paper -
Debate continued.
Proposed New Clauses 18A to 18C negatived, after debate.
Clauses 19 and 20, by leave, taken together and agreed to.
New Part 4.
Mr Giles moved the following amendment -
- After clause 20
- insert
21 Regulations amended
- This Part amends the Traffic Regulations.
- Regulation 91A
repeal, substitute
- For the definition of prescribed driving offence in section 29AB of the Act:
(a) each of the following provisions is a class A prescribed driving offence:
- (i) regulation 37(1A);
(ii) regulation 37A(1);
(iii) regulation 37B(1); and
- (i) section 21 of the Act;
(ii) section 29AAA of the Act;
(iii) section 29AAE of the Act; and
- (i) section 22 of the Act;
(ii) section 23 of the Act;
(iii) section 24 of the Act;
(iv) section 25 of the Act;
(v) section 26 of the Act.
New Part 4 negatived, after debate.
Remainder of the Bill, by leave, taken as a whole and agreed to.
Bill to be reported without amendment.
Question - That the motion be agreed to - put.
The Assembly divided (the Deputy Speaker, Ms L. Walker, in the Chair) -
AYES, 13 NOES, 11
Mrs Aagaard Mr Bohlin
Ms Anderson Ms Carney
Dr Burns Mr Chandler
Mr Gunner Mr Conlan
Mr Hampton Mr Elferink
Mr Henderson Mr Giles
Mr Knight Mr Mills
Ms Lawrie Ms Purick
Ms McCarthy Mr Styles
Mr McCarthy Mr Tollner
Ms Scrymgour Mr Westra van Holthe
Mr Vatskalis
Mr Wood
And so it was resolved in the affirmative.
Bill to be reported without amendment.
The Assembly resumed; the Speaker took the Chair; the Deputy Speaker and Chairman of Committees (Ms Walker) reported that the Assembly had agreed to the Bill without amendment.
The report was adopted.
On the motion of the Minister for Infrastructure and Transport (Ms Lawrie) the Bill was read a third time and passed to be a proposed law.
- The Speaker (Mrs Aagaard) advised Members of the receipt of a letter from the Member for Port Darwin (Mr Elferink), pursuant to Standing Order 83, in which he raised a proposed matter of privilege and has sought precedence of other business for the purpose of moving a motion to refer the matter to the Committee of Privileges.
In accordance with the information provided to me by the Member for Port Darwin and after consideration of the matter in accordance with the guidelines provided by resolution of the Assembly, dated 23 May 1996 I hereby determine that the motion should be given precedence of all other business and that it be called on following consideration of today’s Routine Business - at the end of Business of the Day the last item of which will be discussion of a matter of Public Importance pursuant to Standing Order 94 standing in the name of the Member for Greatorex.
Personal Explanation: The Member for Nelson (Mr Wood), by leave of the Speaker, made a personal explanation relating to a question he had asked earlier this day relating to the employment of engineers from overseas due to the fact that the Government was offering unrealistic salaries to attract engineers to the Territory, that these low salaries meant there are few applicants for the jobs, that the only way to find people to work on those pay rates is to go overseas and recruit people using 457 visas.
- The following notice was given, by leave:
Mr Elferink: To move, later this day –
That the following matter be referred to the Committee of Privileges, namely refer the Member for Arafura to the Privileges committee in relation to statements made by her in this house about her reasons for failing to meet with Territory teachers during recent industrial action and the contradictory statements contained in the Australian newspaper written by Natasha Robinson on the 23 October 2008. (Paper 133)
And further
That the Committee be empowered by this motion to examine relevant witnesses and call for the production of relevant documents.
- The Speaker advised the Assembly that the Member for Greatorex (Mr Conlan) had proposed the following definite Matter of Public Importance for discussion this day:
- The need for genuine consideration of and resources to be committed to the resolution of the many pressing social issues confronting Alice Springs.
Discussion ensued.
Discussion concluded.
- The Member for Port Darwin (Mr Elferink), pursuant to notice, thereupon moved -
That the following matter be referred to the Committee of Privileges, namely refer the Member for Arafura to the Privileges committee in relation to statements made by her in this house about her reasons for failing to meet with Territory teachers during recent industrial action and the contradictory statements contained in the Australian newspaper written by Natasha Robinson on the 23 October 2008.
And further
That the Committee be empowered by this motion to examine relevant witnesses and call for the production of relevant documents.
Debate ensued.
Midnight: And the Assembly having sat until 12 midnight the Assembly continued.
Debate continued.
The Leader of Government Business (Ms Lawrie) moved - That the question be now put.
Question - That the question be now put - put.
The Assembly divided (the Speaker, Hon. J. L Aagaard, in the Chair) -
AYES, 12 NOES, 10
Ms Anderson Mr Bohlin
Dr Burns Ms Carney
Mr Gunner Mr Chandler
Mr Hampton Mr Conlan
Mr Henderson Mr Elferink
Mr Knight Mr Mills
Ms Lawrie Ms Purick
Mr McCarthy Mr Styles
Ms Scrymgour Mr Tollner
Mr Vatskalis Mr Westra van Holthe
Ms Walker
Mr Wood
- Pairs: 11pm until adjournment of the Assembly: Ms McCarthy and Mr Giles.
Question - That the motion be agreed to - put.
The Assembly divided (the Speaker, Hon. J. L Aagaard, in the Chair) -
AYES, 10 NOES, 12
Mr Bohlin Ms Anderson
Ms Carney Dr Burns
Mr Chandler Mr Gunner
Mr Conlan Mr Hampton
Mr Elferink Mr Henderson
Mr Mills Mr Knight
Ms Purick Ms Lawrie
Mr Styles Mr McCarthy
Mr Tollner Ms Scrymgour
Mr Westra van Holthe Mr Vatskalis
Ms Walker
Mr Wood
- Pairs: 11pm until adjournment of the Assembly: Ms McCarthy and Mr Giles.
15. ADJOURNMENT:
- The Chief Minister (Mr Henderson) moved - That the Assembly do now adjourn.
Debate ensued.
Paper tabled: Dr Burns laid on the Table the following Paper -
Debate continued.
And the Assembly adjourned at 1.15am, Friday 24 October 2008, until Tuesday 28 October 2008 at 10am.
PAPERS:
The following Papers were deemed to have been presented on Thursday 23 October 2008 -
Annual Reports
Department of Employment, Education and Training, 2007/2008 (Paper 83)
Pairs
11pm until adjournment of the Assembly: Ms McCarthy and Mr Giles (Paper 90)
Regulations 2008
No. 22, Alice Springs (Shopping Trolley) By-Laws (Paper 84)
No. 26, Motor Vehicles (Fees and Charges) (Paper 85)
No. 27, Fisheries Amendment (No.2) (Paper 86)
No. 28, Fisheries Amendment (Permit to Import) (Paper 87)
No. 29, Territory Parks and Wildlife Conservation Amendment (Fees) By-Laws (Paper 88)
- ATTENDANCE: